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Cameron
11-01-2007, 10:47 AM
I just want to make this clear and explain the situation so more people don't go and hijack threads with BS.

As long as Bulfo, xJuno, and any other pvpers from Nomads participate in PVP with Feds/Legends without switching clans or declaring war, we will do the same. So if any Feds/Legends want the situation to change, you need to talk to these said players. Its simple in that Nomads few pvpers match Final Destiny's numbers. I even told RainZagrada our reasoning and his words were "Fair enough". I'm glad that one of you has come to realize this.

SumTingWong
11-01-2007, 11:24 AM
I support this idea completely. I had dropped my wars the other day for the same reason, but then, upon reflection, felt it was not the right decision - for Continuum. We have far too many players for it to be effective, and it just didn't feel right - to me.

That being said, Final Destiny will always have my full support in any decision Cam or Rua make.

Ema
11-01-2007, 11:25 AM
I'm about to drop the clan wars as well.

Rapstar's clan didn't even declare back after being told twice.

Misery
11-01-2007, 01:53 PM
sry cam, but but the whole time I was in exiles FDs lack of wars was a big joke to all involved on our side and was a dillerbrate attempt to drive up karma so they would drop gear, which I might add worked. or have you all forgotten the huge laff everyone had and how we all patted ourselves on the back when lillie dropped her IC gators?

I don't think FD's lack of wars will matter much it's just the SSDD, besides the fact that we have no inclination to war anyone in or with exiles anyway

have a nice day

SumTingWong
11-01-2007, 02:00 PM
as i recall it, it had nothing to do with karma, nothing to do with drops, but done simply because Rua didn't feel the need to be forced to war anyone. the bonus and side product of that was the fact that it was makin' 'em mad lol.


Much like the stand you make yourself.



and no one made lillie pk Ruamai, he made that choice on his own.

and the gaiters were returned in the end.

tarlach
11-01-2007, 02:15 PM
^_^ thats how i am, i only kill when i wanna kill. No pressure to pvp or not to. Rua is a true pimp....mad props to him......

RainZagrada
11-01-2007, 02:43 PM
The GMs mentioned before that because our community is so small, we dont wanna get into a pk war situation and harber truly harsh feelings towards each other. You guys who arent declaring war (or declaring back) should be cautious because we have been warned before.

SumTingWong
11-01-2007, 03:38 PM
as long as the rule is universal, I have no problems with that Rain.

Misery
11-01-2007, 07:30 PM
as i recall it, it had nothing to do with karma, nothing to do with drops, but done simply because Rua didn't feel the need to be forced to war anyone. the bonus and side product of that was the fact that it was makin' 'em mad lol.

then you have a poor memory

and no one made lillie pk Ruamai, he made that choice on his own.

much like no one you've told to KOS us has to either, but just to warn you, it might not go as well for those that drop things in the future

Thorn
11-01-2007, 07:33 PM
Gms are no longer going to intervene in any pvp/pk/war situation unless it threatens the server.Go forth and kill/delevel/go red as much as you want.
REMEMBER the new update will have drastic changes to karma and how you work it off. players with high pk counts will become christmas presents for all when they go red and get killed. We are considering other changes as well....be warned

Padyn
11-01-2007, 07:33 PM
Interesting....you were never on vent when any of the conversations around what was going on happened. You just like to think you know but you have no idea!

Misery
11-01-2007, 07:51 PM
Interesting....you were never on vent when any of the conversations around what was going on happened. You just like to think you know but you have no idea!

really? so it must have been another alliance crowing about it in alliance chat, my mistake...

Padyn
11-01-2007, 07:56 PM
Did you bother to read? It was discussed in VENT! You guys only showed up on siege days to vent. So you have no clue about what was discussed. You have only what was speculated, assumed and randomly mentioned in alliance chat!

Celestra
11-01-2007, 09:43 PM
Gms are no longer going to intervene in any pvp/pk/war situation unless it threatens the server.Go forth and kill/delevel/go red as much as you want.
REMEMBER the new update will have drastic changes to karma and how you work it off. players with high pk counts will become christmas presents for all when they go red and get killed. We are considering other changes as well....be warned


Christmas is just around the corner too !! :D

SumTingWong
11-01-2007, 09:47 PM
i do believe i might know just a little bit more than you do about Ruamai's motivations Syth. As does Cameron.

HiYa
11-01-2007, 11:23 PM
The GMs mentioned before that because our community is so small, we dont wanna get into a pk war situation and harber truly harsh feelings towards each other. You guys who arent declaring war (or declaring back) should be cautious because we have been warned before.


Glad to see someone is paying attention

Misery
11-02-2007, 01:59 AM
i do believe i might know just a little bit more than you do about Ruamai's motivations Syth. As does Cameron.

as does anyone that read alliance chat when you talked about it there, no speculation was needed, it was there in lite green chat, almost makes me wish I took screen shots of it now. deny it all you want, doesn't make it any less true no matter how much smoke you blow out your rump

have a nice day

Misery
11-02-2007, 02:02 AM
Gms are no longer going to intervene in any pvp/pk/war situation unless it threatens the server.Go forth and kill/delevel/go red as much as you want.
REMEMBER the new update will have drastic changes to karma and how you work it off. players with high pk counts will become christmas presents for all when they go red and get killed. We are considering other changes as well....be warned

have a feeling Christmas is coming early for a lot of ppl on godz

SumTingWong
11-02-2007, 06:13 AM
i don't think you get what is being said there...

there will be consequences for those who participate in pvp without declaring back as well.

i.e. trying to trick people into goin red.

otherwise, we can just all drop our wars and see who can get the most drops.

because you see.. what it does is allow the un declared clan to port in un molested. they can all come in at their leisure and then decide when to attack.

so I think perhaps I will just drop the wars once and for all. this time for good.

that way, all my people can port into the pvp spot and we don't have to worry about the ones with the slow computers or spawn protection. we'll all just mass up and then once we are all there, we'll make sure everyone is ready and then start attacking.

just like Fate and Nomads were doin all last night. no prob, i can adapt easily. in fact, it's better for us this way.

and there can be no punishments, because if it's allowed for you, it's allowed for me.

now it's becoming required to play this way, all because the carebear alliance can't handle themselves.

but that's cool. i can play dirty as well.

LightMyFire
11-02-2007, 07:21 AM
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Khail
11-02-2007, 08:30 AM
just like Fate and Nomads were doin all last night. no prob, i can adapt easily. in fact, it's better for us this way.

and there can be no punishments, because if it's allowed for you, it's allowed for me.

Um ya, it's happened before and it's still happening; but can you even imagine the ammount of whining/reporting that's gonna cause on their side?

I can hardly see them taking it as 'leveling the field for everyone', more like "omg gm look at what Cont just did they wan me to go red go jail him!", if past experience is of any value at all.

Anyways, i can only hope 'big' pvpers fight like they should once and for all: declare/declare back; don't use mobs; don't false report; don't taunt people on shout to 1v1 you if you're playing a bugged class.

That way maybe we can all enjoy some decent pvp in which the side with more red glowing bows wins again :D

Misery
11-02-2007, 10:42 AM
i don't think you get what is being said there...

there will be consequences for those who participate in pvp without declaring back as well. i.e. trying to trick people into goin red.

hmm as of the last time I logged into game cont members didn't need to be tricked into going red, they watched me run by then shot me in the back, even got a GF afterwards.

and their will be no consequences other then what LongBow has explained in detail. in fact Thorn's posted already on the subject. here it is again if you missed it
Gms are no longer going to intervene in any pvp/pk/war situation unless it threatens the server.Go forth and kill/delevel/go red as much as you want.
REMEMBER the new update will have drastic changes to karma and how you work it off. players with high pk counts will become Christmas presents for all when they go red and get killed. We are considering other changes as well....be warned
as for any tactics you might try, I'm not too worried, I don't tend to be trigger happy. which is why none of my toons have more then one or two pks

as always, have a nice day

ChileConCarne
11-02-2007, 11:09 AM
Anyways, i can only hope 'big' pvpers fight like they should once and for all: declare/declare back; don't use mobs; don't false report; don't taunt people on shout to 1v1 you if you're playing a bugged class.

That way maybe we can all enjoy some decent pvp in which the side with more red glowing bows wins again :D


GG calling out Ruamai, i love it when people try to be smart and end up making their own ally member(s) look like crap.

Ema
11-02-2007, 11:15 AM
You do that exceptionally well Perse. Thanks for posting that, where as you log in maybe once every 4 days, and then talk about things that you say we do, completely blinded by everything your own clan members do, you tend to make them look more retarded than half of them already are.

Still waiting on clan wars from Rapstar.

SumTingWong
11-02-2007, 11:37 AM
GG calling out Ruamai, i love it when people try to be smart and end up making their own ally member(s) look like crap.

and after you and i had a talk about convincing ruamai to return the wars on you, what did you do?

you had RTard out there untagged healing the Shogunites.

so i see no reason that we should do any different. of course it's your choice to do what you want, as it is Ruamai's, but then don't come here and spout off about how much better you are when you start doing the same thing.

LightMyFire
11-02-2007, 12:53 PM
Even the hoff cant calm u guys... Fine /leaves thread

killerdeath55
11-02-2007, 12:54 PM
ok i like pk :):);)

Piasa
11-02-2007, 05:03 PM
You do that exceptionally well Perse. Thanks for posting that, where as you log in maybe once every 4 days, and then talk about things that you say we do, completely blinded by everything your own clan members do, you tend to make them look more retarded than half of them already are.

Still waiting on clan wars from Rapstar.

no offence Ema but Pers acaully logs on everyday wither it be for a few minutes or a few hrs.


Anyway...

@Sum I have no problem with flag wars as what was seen in DO last night, nomads/fate rolled Lenyy, Pearlbuffer, Rua and oahn a few times they rolled us a few times, no harm done to either side, was acaully fun to go back to the way it was before clan wars were even around back in Open beta to C2, C3 introduced the clan war system), only reason we finally gave up is because people had to leave :P

Ema
11-03-2007, 02:34 PM
Post removed because I just don't feel like continuing the conversation

RainZagrada
11-05-2007, 12:38 PM
Glad to see someone is paying attention

;]

I was highly involved in Bartz politics at their peak so being a politician is 2nd nature to me now.

: ]

carlost
11-06-2007, 03:10 AM
Gms are no longer going to intervene in any pvp/pk/war situation unless it threatens the server.Go forth and kill/delevel/go red as much as you want.
REMEMBER the new update will have drastic changes to karma and how you work it off. players with high pk counts will become christmas presents for all when they go red and get killed. We are considering other changes as well....be warned

im not agree with those karma changues i just wanted to say it cuz it's not fair imo than a normal player becomes a christmass tree as u said and the donator which many of them have all their gear donated, when they drop they get their stuffs back as a rule to me it's bs making it more difficult most of the people have donated almost everyting they will just pk any1 they want and laugh at ur new karma system since they wont lose anything or they will???? that's my question is there going to be a changue about it? they will drop or they will be just over the new karma sistem as they were over the previus

kooyenghan
11-26-2007, 02:13 AM
i think after fortress battle is out ... no much ppl want to pk anymore ...